Terry, one of the things I’ve done pretty much right from the beginning was to open and close my treat pouch often during training. My hand is in and out of it all the time. I have even carried a whole hot dog in my hand during practice searches – Baxter has learned that it JUST DOESN’T MATTER. There is no way he is getting rewarded except AT SOURCE, after telling me he has “FOUND IT!”. In his mind, he isn’t getting treats FROM ME – he is getting treats because he FOUND SOURCE.